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"Who reads this shit?"

OK, in the actual joke it's "Who wrote it?" - but that's not my punchline for this post. See, it's like this:

On Saturday we went to a new play at Vital about the loving relationship of two adult sisters, one of whom gets cancer, and the other has to decide whether or not to pursue her mid-life dream of being a Writer, which involves taking a grueling grad school degree from a Bigshot Writer. She works hard, even beating out the hipster guy who wins prizes for stories that essentially come down to "Will my protagonist get laid?" (which, having now read a ton of submissions to various places, I am here to tell you is what a shocking percentage are about. Yawn. But that's another post....) . . . and her reward, her big marker of success, is that her mentor recommends her stuff to a prestigious literary Little Magazine. Which, after many edits & revisions, publishes her story. I suspect only the dying sister reads it. Though possibly she dies first.

The next day, Guy Kay (an old pal from our mutual Struggling Writer days) sends me this from Harper's (read it and laugh so hard you'll snork. I particularly like "This sentence is short, not because it is brief—which it is—but because it has few words.") Very cheering. But.

So here's the thing: What made me - and most people I know - want to be writers is that we loved to read. We read a lot. We wanted to write the kinds of books we loved to read.

Schools are full of grad students whose highest goal seems to be getting published in small literary magazines with minute circulations. But have they actually read those magazines themselves first? Did they love reading them?

I'm probably being an idiot here, but I've already written the post, and it seems a waste of time to delete it now. Also, it gives me a chance to offer you the link to the Colson Whitehead piece.

Date: 2009-01-27 07:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lethe-lloyd.livejournal.com
So here's the thing: What made me - and most people I know - want to be writers is that we loved to read. We read a lot. We wanted to write the kinds of books we loved to read.

It would be cheering to know in advance that people also want to read the books you are writing. Desperately.

I actually love wordsmiths who write luscious prose, but I've been told I am so unfashionable I should be in a museum. Ah, well. d;-)

May I ask - is this Guy Kay who wrote the Fionavar Tapestry and Tigana? I love his work, I have been trying to find people on my f-list who have read him. He's one of those writers whose books end up looking extremely ravished. Swordspoint is also on that ( rather small )shelf along with Tolkien and a couple of others.

Date: 2009-01-27 11:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
Yes, that's Guy Gavriel Kay; he's written many many big fat wonderful books! And we all love being ravished by our readers. No, really.

Have you read Dorothy Dunnett? Both Guy & I were very much influenced by her "Lymond" series.

Date: 2009-01-28 07:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lethe-lloyd.livejournal.com
Lol, read books with passion d;-)

I have heard the name, but not read her. I will be following that up. Thank-you :)

Date: 2009-02-01 04:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mizkit.livejournal.com
*waves* Gibbering GGK fan here, too :)

Date: 2009-02-01 05:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lethe-lloyd.livejournal.com
Oh, wow! * Beams madly * . hello there! I know many people must have read him, but I have always been stunned that almost every-one I have come across on Lj and other forums who regularly read fantasy have not. o_O

I must do a kind of book review thinggy on my f-list - no that sounds pretentious, I'll just gush, I'm good at gushing. :D
I'm sure most of them would love his work.

I have very few books that I read and re-read for year upon year, his are among them. I call it the top shelf, and most of the books look like recycling material. XD

Date: 2009-02-01 05:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mizkit.livejournal.com
I know people for whom GGK simply Does Not Work, but I know more people who love him. :)

Date: 2009-02-01 05:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lethe-lloyd.livejournal.com
Well, I was on a forum talking to one very intelligent man who admitted that he found Tigana dealt with matters that were too near the bone for him, and it disturbed him. He did say he loved the writing, but the content simply discomfited him.
That was the first book of Kay's I read. My sister brought it and discovered it missing the next day. If a book is missing it is always me.

Date: 2009-02-01 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mizkit.livejournal.com
Tigana's my favorite. :)

Date: 2009-02-01 07:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lethe-lloyd.livejournal.com
I think it's stupendous. I think that was when - and it was years ago - I found I liked books which were darker and more gritty and required my mind-door to creak open on it's hinge a little more. Of course now it's just hanging on by one hinge d;-) - just. I developed a taste for darker and more taboo content, pain and the consequences of impossible actions from reading that book - and I'm very happy about it :D

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