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Laugh at my grey hairs, go ahead, laugh! Remember, I got them in your service.

Terri Windling & the Endicott Studio gang explain: To celebrate our 20th Anniversary, we asked the good folks who have been involved with Endicott over the years to please send us two photographs: one from the late '80s (when Endicott began), and one taken more recently.

My 20-yrs-ago one was from the first semi-pro photoshoot I ever did, with a friend of a friend in Tucson named Scott Clemans. I enjoyed it more than I expected, and lost my fear of being photographed, from that day, on. It was taken while I was writing Swordspoint. My boyfriend at the time (an off-off-Broadway Shakespearean actor with very long red hair) referred to it as the "Renaissance Biker Chick" portrait. Unwin, Hyman used it on the back flap of their edition of Swordspoint (which is the genuine First Edition, not the American one). The "now" one was taken at the Glasgow Worldcon 2 yrs ago by Michael Benveniste. And I am tickled to death that Emma Bull put up one of the ones that Beth Gwinn took of the two of us at the first Tucson World Fantasy Con. (I've got a better close-up shot - I'll have to send it to Endicott to add to their collection!) Seeing all these beloved old faces - and getting the chance to see what new friends looked like back before I ever knew them . . . excuse me, may I borrow your handkerchief?

Date: 2007-06-06 08:30 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lisa-marli.livejournal.com
I never laugh at grey hairs. We all have 'em. Some of us just hide them better. :)
Besides you are still a gorgeous lady.
*hands you a kleenex*

Date: 2007-06-06 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-denham.livejournal.com
Great pics! I also browsed the Endicott website and especially liked the Fairy Tale Reading List (http://www.endicott-studio.com/lists/list-fairyTale.html).

My husband will be teaching a new college course this fall on myth in the arts and literature. The first semester will focus on the Sleeping Beauty story, from the first written versions, to the ballet versions, to contemporary retellings. All of the books we've looked at for this were on the list, and it looks like there may be some others worth checking out.

We will both be at Mythcon in August and look forward to seeing you there.

Date: 2007-06-06 10:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolfsilveroak.livejournal.com
I have all of their Anthologies, and roughly 1/3 of the Fairy Tale List. Guess I better get cracking on finding the rest}:P

Date: 2007-06-08 04:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
That sounds like a fantastic course! I look forward to seeing you at Mythcon for sure. He might like to check out my "Sound & Spirit" show on Fairy Tales (see the Alphabetical listings on line), too.

Date: 2007-06-08 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-denham.livejournal.com
Cool - I will check out the Sound and Spirit listing as well. Thanks!

Date: 2007-06-06 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] writingjen.livejournal.com
Ellen Kushner = foxy
I love that the first picture was from the Swordspoint era. I can just picture you coming up with the "mad bad boys"! But the other picture looks the way I first met you at WisCon a couple of years ago and so it is the way I think you "ought" to look.

Date: 2007-06-07 06:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
Heh!

Of course, note that I'm not wearing my glasses. I'm much less foxy with my glasses on.

Date: 2007-06-06 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolfsilveroak.livejournal.com
That is awesome.

Charles Vess is a native Virginian, lived(lives?) 45 minutes from here. Heh. He does beautiful work.

Date: 2007-06-07 06:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
I believe he's in Abingdon; we've visited him there - it's lovely country, and definitely finds its way into his work!

Okay...

Date: 2007-06-07 12:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] huladavid.livejournal.com
...but you gotta laugh at my bald spot, then. (I've lost a bunch'a hair unevenly in the front, so it's gonna be shaved pate from here on!)

I've gray in my beard, but that's come in so unevenly that I've either been shaving it into a goatee, dyeing the shinola outt'a it--or both.

Re: Okay...

Date: 2007-06-07 06:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
It all looks great in your photo here!

Date: 2007-06-07 12:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miep.livejournal.com
aww... you all look so cute.

how funny that Emma's hair has come full circle -- when I used to see her play out with Lorraine, it was long and braided...

also, rereading TPOTS and can't for the life of me figure out where my anti-Flavia stance came from. this time through, she seems, if not charming, at least genuine. hrmmmmm...

Date: 2007-06-07 06:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dichroic.livejournal.com
Someone really ought to use those photographs in a discussion on aging.I haven't met most of those people, so this is an outsider's view, unprejudiced by friendship - I'd say the majority of them are better looking now than 20 years ago (the exceptions pretty much look the same now as then). And the reason seems pretty clear; they/you have grown to look more like yourselves, with faces stamped by personality and experience rather than just the common experience of youth. One thing all the people in the photos have in common is that you've been spending the time doing your life's work, and I bet most of you would say that you lives are as or more interesting than 20 years ago. It would be interesting to see a similar collection of photos from people who consider youth their highlights, who have settled into a more cookie-cutter existence since; I'd bet their looks would not have improved.

Oh, and Delia really *does* look just like that Vogue cover!

Date: 2007-06-07 06:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
Thank you for those lovely observations, so beautifully expressed!

And, yeah, doesn't she?

Date: 2007-06-07 03:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amelia-petkova.livejournal.com
I'm so glad you posted that link to the photos of the Endicott people. It's so fascinating to see these people whose work I first started finding when I was a little girl.

Date: 2007-06-07 04:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
Yeah, well, that is what we all looked like when you were a little girl . . . . I'm so glad you grew up with us!

Date: 2007-06-07 07:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] handworn.livejournal.com
You look great in both photos. Did the boyfriend with long red hair make an appearance in Swordspoint?

For the record, you got to keep your one-color hair a good deal longer than me. I got my first grey hairs at age 24, and I wish I could say it was them that people have been laughing at ever since.

Date: 2007-06-07 08:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
He was already in Swdpt: I first saw him playing Cassius in "Julius Caesar," and he played him a lot like Alec, which naturally caught my interest - despite the red hair. He was very tall and bony, too.

Date: 2007-06-08 03:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] handworn.livejournal.com
Alec and Cassius-- there's a thought-provoking pairing. Though in youth and intense idealism, Alec seems a bit more like Brutus.

And now you have me trying to cast the rest of them. Lord Ferris as Cassius, Basil Halliday as Julius Caesar, the Duchess Tremontaine as Calpurnia...

Date: 2007-06-10 09:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
Well, the way Jeffrey played him, Cassius was angry at the world & a bit too clever. Also tall & lanky & charismatic & smart. Brutus is too full of compunctions - I'd put Halliday as him, actually.

Date: 2007-06-07 11:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yaoi-in-exile.livejournal.com
My mama` is driving herself crazy over imaginary "white hairs". I just think gray-white hair looks elegant and learned. I hope I go white like my great-grandmama`. :3 Besides, it doesn't matter what color one's hair is if one is enough of a lady/gentleman-which you most certainly are, Ms. Kushner. (A lady, that is, not the other thing. XD!)

1. You look like you could be in the Breakfast Club (80's pic), Ms. K! It's *smashing*! (D *worships*

2. I LURV those flowers behind Ms. Sherman (recent pic). She looks so sweet. (3

3. That Will Shetterly cuts quite a dashing figure at any age. Mrowr. >3

4. Wendy Froud looks like my dance humanities teacher (recent pic)! :D *falls in lurv with her hair*

What a colorful array of characters the Endicott Studio has. (3 And is that ex of yours still single? >D Mmmm, long hair... (I had to stifle sponantenous, unexplored lusts for my fellow classmates at graduation, who were suddenly much more attractive walking around in their flowing 'scholar's robes'. Specifically and alarmingly, my older!gentleman counselor, who was quite dashing in a black one. o.0; FotK has gotten into my subconscious...)

Date: 2007-06-08 04:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
- Well, I do try to be a Gentleman at all times.

1. Yipes - thank you!! The 80's were very good to me.

2. Yep - I think it's a double-flowering cherry tree, her favorite. It reminds me of the famous portrait of Edna St Vincent Millay (with a single-flowering cherry only, but oh so picturesque!).

3. Will is the best!

4. And so is Wendy!

(And I googled my ex recently - he seems to have become a massage therapist in Maine. No comment. I bet he's cut his hair, too. Whether or not he is married, it did not say.)

Yes - everyone looks good in black, flowing robes! Now if only they would lose the silly hats . . . note that in TFOTK there are no silly hats. not on academics, anyway.

Endicott: Then and Now

Date: 2007-06-08 08:39 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Very glad that y'all are enjoying our "Then and Now" page. I've always loved that picture of Ellen, which is how she looked when we first became friends, oh so long ago. As elegant and wonderful as she looks today, in my mind's eye she's still that leather-and-lace '80s hottie that I first knew. (Back before the word "hottie" was even invented.)

We'll be adding new pictures to the page in the weeks ahead as more of them come in (we just added Catherynne Valente yesterday, for example) -- so do come check it out again in the future. You'll need to scroll down to see the new photos. I love that old picture of Charles Vess and Karen Shaffer at the top of the page so much that it's going to remain there, with new pics added to the middle post below.

We've also got a new issue of the Journal of Mythic Arts up by the way, at: http://www.endicott-studio.com/jMA07Spring/index.html

Cheers,
Terri Windling

Re: Endicott: Then and Now

Date: 2007-06-08 08:40 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
P.S.: And if you look closely, you'll see that the new issue of the Journal of Mythic Arts is dedicated to Ellen and Delia.

Re: Endicott: Then and Now

Date: 2007-06-08 08:42 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
P.P.S.:

....as was the recent anthology Salon Fantastique, edited by me and Ellen Datlow.

T.W.

Re: Endicott: Then and Now

Date: 2007-06-08 04:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
. . . and another handkerchief, please!

We are so pleased & proud.

Date: 2007-06-10 06:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yaoi-in-exile.livejournal.com
Well, Jessica did have a "disreputable" one. I had to look that up. ^^; *shamed*

Only the present teachers got to wear black robes...it wasn't fair at all. I'd kill (a plant) for one of those to dress up in. *pouts* They were prefect, too. But no, the colors were red and white for the school. And, and! It was so unfair-the boys got to wear the red robes (all of which looked quite alarming and dangerous, but dashing at the same time...rakish, I suppose.) WE had to wear stupid white, and if we tried to wear anything brighter or darker than pastel under the robes, everyone saw. *pouts* I had to spend the evening in unattractive lavender after disrobing. Boooo. *pouts again*

There's a random thing I've been wondering since re-reading TPOTS last week. When Katherine almost got Rippington through the heart...well, Ginnie Vandall noticed, at least. Do you suppose Alec did? Maybe that was part of the reason why he was so tickled about her victory afterwards? *ponders*

And another trivial thing: in TFOTK, it talks about scholars going around with "their long hair clubbed". What does that mean?

Date: 2007-06-12 01:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skychild17.livejournal.com
Egads, Delia looked like a soccer mom. The present is a vast improvement.

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