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My Bantam editor, Anne Groell, wrote to tell me that The Fall of the Kings has just gone back to press for another printing of many more copies - hurray! - and with a new, lower cover price in Canadian loonies, reflecting the US$ miserable fall against world currencies (- she didn't say that. I said that.).

Coincidentally (OK, actually while lazily googling my own damn webpage) I just came across a well-written, thoughtful, deep, and - I think - accurate review of The Fall of the Kings, written a couple years after the book came out by the admirable Robert M. Tilendis for Rambles.net. Here are some of my favorite bits - or you can read the whole review here.

In The Fall of the Kings, Kushner and her collaborator, Delia Sherman . . . avoid the usual devices of heroic fantasy; 'magic' is a matter of the workings of myth on the minds of men, making those places within each of us that respond to those motifs and stories that resonate in our deepest levels of engagement the real substance of the story.

....[Campion & St Cloud's] affair, as seems to be the rule among Kushner's protagonists, is a highly charged, tempestuous, often cruel relationship, qualities which are only emphasized as St. Cloud's researches into the history of the Kings and their wizards bring the myth and its magic more and more to the forefront of the story and he and Theron begin to take on their roles as priest and sacrifice. (In light of the increasing tendency to attempt the use of elements of modern paganism in contemporary fantasy -- usually with the result of trivializing the former with no appreciable gain to the latter -- that Kushner and Sherman have cut to the heart of the matter, not in their use of a central myth in itself, but in the color and structure they assign it and the depth that it brings to their story, only sets a new standard for the examination of religion and its conflicts in the genre.)
[Cool! - ek]

....'What is this book about?' Ultimately, The Fall of the Kings is about itself, about its richness and complexity, its passages of uncomfortable intensity and dream-laden mythic potency, its juxtapositions of substance and triviality, and about the resolution of where our arbitrary but rational reality meets the coherent and unreasonable legacy of the past.


As [livejournal.com profile] deliasherman, looking reading over my shoulder, just sighed, "Wow! That's the novel we were trying to write!"

Date: 2007-12-08 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
So did you pick something out for Scalzi yet? Must be hard - you've got so much amazing stuff there!

Date: 2007-12-08 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] matociquala.livejournal.com
I did! I picked out a weird little thing.

Obviously, you need to write a NEW essay. *g*

Date: 2007-12-08 05:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
Oh, curse you, you're right! ANd I know just the one, too: the Swordfight in Spain. Long-promised, never delivered . . . . But really I don't think I can make his deadline with it. Plus, what if it sucks? I think I've decided on "The Dog Ate My Nebula Essay" instead - though just for fun I'm going to put up a poll, because what else do people have to do this fine weekend?

Date: 2007-12-09 04:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] matociquala.livejournal.com
I am a bad bad Bear.

Date: 2007-12-08 04:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mizkit.livejournal.com
Hooray!

Date: 2007-12-08 08:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miep.livejournal.com
dear ellen and delia,
will you be my new best friends?

love, miep
ps. you could even drop by for cookies when you're in town...

pps/
that's what I would have said about it, too, if I were good at that sort of writing.

ppss.
how many posts can a postscript have?

Date: 2007-12-08 09:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] burgundy.livejournal.com
how many posts can a postscript have?

If a postscript did script posts?

Date: 2007-12-09 12:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
Oh, get outta my brain, burgundy!

Date: 2007-12-09 02:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] burgundy.livejournal.com
But it's such a wonderful brain to be in!


And in a postscript of my own, a friend of mine posted something the other day about a book she was reading, and said of the author: "she suggests that a lot of writing about history has devolved into writing about the history of history -- historians reviewing each other's theories and pronouncements, rather than going back to contemporary original sources for the events they're writing about." And I immediately thought about all the scholarly disputes in Fall of the Kings.

Date: 2007-12-09 04:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
Oooh - scarey!

Date: 2007-12-09 01:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miep.livejournal.com
well done.

a postscript did script such posts as it did post..

eh. I lost it.

Date: 2007-12-09 04:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
I believe what you meant to say was, "As many postscripts as a postcript could post," really!

Date: 2007-12-09 12:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
Cooooooookies!!!

I'm with on the "wish I coulda said that" - especially in interviews, where what I *meant* to say was, "Yes, well, our book is really about the resolution of where our arbitrary but rational reality meets the coherent and unreasonable legacy of the past" but never quite made it past "Well, um...It's about how if you ignore the past it comes up and bites you on the butt." Yes, I'm afraid that is a direct quote. By Me.

P.S. Can we be Friends & Evil Overlords, too?

P.P.S. Seeing that you're already our Appointed Minion and all....

Date: 2007-12-09 01:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miep.livejournal.com
hrmmm....

I thnk it could work, the whole bff/evil overlord combo....

your interview do-over wish sounds like my classroom do-over wish, where I am kind and witty and utterly firm, like mary poppins, all the time.

more often, I say, "because I'm the teacher, and I said so."

Date: 2007-12-09 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
Um, yes.... I used to come up with brilliant things to explain to children in my head, and thought sometimes, I should have been a grade school teacher . . . but there's many a slip 'twixt brain and reality - what I probably would have ended up telling my classes would be more along the lines of, "Shut up shut up or I'll kill you!"

Date: 2007-12-08 11:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jazzfish
And just the night before last I was thinking "I should really pick up a copy of _Fall of the Kings_ while I'm buying xmas presents from Amazon," and being sad because it looked rather out-of-print there. Yay!

Date: 2007-12-09 04:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
Yay and yay!

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