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Someone posted this video on my FaceBook FunWall, and ...can I do it here? YES!! Techno-baby's First LJ Video link!



This does not imply endorsement of Barack, just a fondness for Bollywood. While I like him and will gladly vote for him if he's up, and I do think he's wonderful domestically, I believe it's Hillary who already has the international relationships and credibility that the US so badly needs to repair the horror of the Bush years. And also, she's worked so damn' hard; she deserves her chance to make a difference and make history.

Date: 2008-03-04 02:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justinhowe.livejournal.com
Thank you.

Date: 2008-03-04 02:53 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] anghara.livejournal.com
I believe it's Hillary who already has the international relationships and credibility that the US so badly needs to repair the horror of the Bush years.

Some day you must let me tell you all about the legacy of Hilary's international "credibility". I hope I can do that before you vote for her.

Date: 2008-03-04 02:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
Hmm. Do you dislike Madeleine Albright, too?

Date: 2008-03-04 03:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
Tell away. I'm happy to be educated. It's been my impression that HRC has, through her senate work and time as First Lady, many personal & professional relationships with world leaders who have already taken her measure & basically like & trust her. Not so?

Date: 2008-03-04 05:17 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] anghara.livejournal.com
Email me and I'll tell you.

Date: 2008-03-04 05:17 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] anghara.livejournal.com
"Dislike" would probably be putting it mildly.

Date: 2008-03-04 03:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wikdsushi.livejournal.com
O.O

And in return.... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HMuY1Zrszo&feature=related)

Date: 2008-03-04 05:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ron-drummond.livejournal.com
Wonderful! But what do the lyrics mean, I wonder?

Date: 2008-03-04 05:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] april-art.livejournal.com
I agree with you on Hillary. I'm glad I had a chance to vote for her once, sad that I may not get another chance. (I've never met you, but I'm MHC'79.)

Date: 2008-03-04 04:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
Hiya!

I know I should recognize "MHC," but I'm afraid I'm drawing a blank.... Help?

Date: 2008-03-06 12:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] april-art.livejournal.com
Ooops! Sorry, I mistakenly thought you went to Mount Holyoke (MHC), but I see you were at Barnard and Bryn Mawr. (Senility is setting in, that's the only excuse I can think of, at any rate.) Apologies for the confusion.

Date: 2008-03-07 03:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
No problem. "Confusion" is my middle name.

Date: 2008-03-04 06:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] klwalton.livejournal.com
One more agreement on Hillary.

Date: 2008-03-04 03:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
Thanks! A friend recently sent me a "Feminists for Hillary" e-mail, which included this:

Our country also needs a president who has a thorough mastery of “details”—yes, details – after eight years of Bush and Cheney. The job of restoring good government is overwhelming, and will require more than “inspiration” to accomplish it. We believe that the Federal Emergency Management Agency, the Justice Department, the Food and Drug Administration, the Centers for Disease Control, the Environmental Protection Agency, and many more can be restored to full and effective functioning only by a president who understands their scope, regulations, personnel, problems and history. Knowing these “details” and acting on them are essential to begin the healing and recuperation of the country.

How many of us have heard brilliant and resourceful women in the workplace dismissed or devalued for “detail-orientation” in contrast to a man’s supposed “big picture” scope? How many of us have seen what, in a man, would be called “peerless mastery,” get called, in a woman’s case, “narrowness”? How many women have we known—truly gifted workers, professionals, and administrators—who have been criticized for their reserve and down-to-earth way of speaking? Whose commanding style, seriousness, and get-to-work style are criticized as “cold” and insufficiently “likable”? These prejudices have been scandalously present in this campaign.

Date: 2008-03-04 07:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pamola.livejournal.com
While I be happy to vote for either in the presidential election, I feel the Hillary campaign has descended into gaming the electorate vs debating the ideas. The phone ad seemed to be a page out of Bush's book (lets scare you about security). I would prefer a tight, clean race between Hillary and Barrack all the way to convention. Then in a remarkably demonstration of democracy, have the delegates choose a candidate instead of having it mandated.

I also wonder if it wouldn't be better to break the dynasty of Bush -Clinton - Bush. Do we have to choose our leaders from two families. I really don't want to see the swing back to Jeb Bush in 2016 (or his handsome son).

Jeb Bush

Date: 2008-03-05 05:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
Re. Hillary's race: The thing that makes me the saddest is that the US (I refuse to blame "The Media" alone) just kicked all the quirkyness and originality out of her way back when: first she had to knuckle under & give up her last name for the Arkansans, and the famous "cookie" comment on Bill's way to the White House taught her that nothing is ever forgiven. You can watch her just clamming up and refusing to give anyone anything to latch onto in the intervening years, until it's come to this.

"Jeb Bush in 2016"
omg - pleeeeease, no! stop depressing me!!!!!


Re: Jeb Bush

Date: 2008-03-05 12:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pamola.livejournal.com
Oh, I don't think Hillary has had the quirkyness kicked out of her. It may have been surgically removed from her media mask, but I think she is still the same independent thinker. In a note of full disclosure, my eldest sister is a college friend of Hillary's. I will whole heartedly support her or Obama against McCain in the fall.

Re the Bushes: I still have the image of George the elder and Younger on the eve of the first election, looking like the royal family awaiting the cornation. We really don't need dynasties (where is the Boy and His Dog dynasty of Kennedy, Kennedy, Kennedy)

Re: Jeb Bush

Date: 2008-03-06 09:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
"I don't think Hillary has had the quirkyness kicked out of her."

No, no - I'm sure you're right; I meant only in her public persona presentation - "media mask" - good term! And it's nice to know that a college friend thinks well of her - these things matter.

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