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Saturday, 2:30-3:45 P.M.
Title: Here's Where The Story Ends
"Maureen McHugh's novels, some say, don't have proper endings; others think that since life goes on past the end of the novel, the ending's a matter of the author's choice. We'll discuss where to end a novel, how much denoument to give the characters, and other questions of wrapping things up."

Saturday, 4:00-5:15 P.M.
Title: "The ""Real City"" of Urban Fantasy"
"John Clute proposed the idea of a Real Year for some authors -- the idea that some books are actually set in a year that was significant to the author, rather than whenever they're purported to take place in. We'd like to know what the Real City is for fantasy stories that stake claims to city-geography and attitudes. How are these cities sometimes not as plausibly citified a they might be? What's a city? Is it possible to be a child of the suburbs and still write believable, inhabited cityscapes? "

Sunday, 2:30-3:45 P.M.
GROUP READING
: Like Quills upon the Fretful Porpentine
Elizabeth Bear Sarah Monette David Levine Ellen Kushner
NOTE that this will be held down the street from the hotel in the delightful FAIR TRADE COFFEESHOP

Sunday, 4:00-5:15 P.M.
Title: Welcome back to Riverside
"In 1987, Ellen Kushner published her first novel, Swordspoint. 2006 saw the publication of The Privilege of the Sword, a sequel set about 15 years later. In between there were various short stories featuring the same characters, and a novel (and novella), The Fall of the Kings, written with partner Delia Sherman & set long long after Swordspoint. What's it like to stay so long with one imaginary city and cast of characters, and to grow older along with them? How do you keep the theme of the books fresh and edgy when an entire generation has grown up between them? In an intimate (roundtable) setting, Ellen Kushner answers all your impertinent and importunate questions about the world and the characters...and what might be next. "

I'll also be at the Gathering on Friday helping people find their True Clothes at the Swap (which Delia & I originated when we were GoHs - so glad it's continued thanks to other folks' enthusiasm & energy!) . . . and interested parties are invited to an Interstitial Arts introductory get-together on Sunday morning at 11:00 a.m. (place To Be Determined, probably Michelangelo's).

. . . And, Yes, you can buy me a drink.

Indeed, I insist.

Date: 2008-05-11 03:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] renesears.livejournal.com
wish I were there :)

Date: 2008-05-11 07:18 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] intelligentrix.livejournal.com
Me too. I will be power sulking that weekend.

Date: 2008-05-11 02:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
We'll miss you!

Date: 2008-05-11 10:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kekhmet.livejournal.com
Yay! See you there - I'm making it back across the big pond for Wiscon this year. (Though I shall be arriving too late in the day on Friday to make the Gathering)

Date: 2008-05-11 01:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miep.livejournal.com
hey, evil overlord/bff:

need any minioning done? my schedule is still to be determined, but I will be interstitialling with anyone interstitial on sunday morrning, if there is interstitialling to be done.

Date: 2008-05-11 06:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
Oooh, yes! Thanks for the offer! You were Minion of the Year last year, y'know! Can you come hang out at the Gathering & help Victor & others hand out cookies to the masses? And we'd love to have you join the gang on Sunday morning. I'm thinking we should meet at Michelangelo's, but I'm worried that there will be a Reading in there at teh same time, and no seats for us . . . Any other thoughts on where we might all convene?

Date: 2008-05-12 11:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miep.livejournal.com
I am required in Minnesota until 3 on Friday, so even driving at a very fast rate, I won't arrive in Madison until around 8:30 in the evening. However, I will be happy to be useful at any other time...

How far in advance can the spontaneous programming space be reserved, and still be spontaneous? I would be willing to venture out early Sunday morning (like, around 8 :) ) to procure sticky buns and the like, if such a space could be procured. we all know that the IAF make a mean cup of coffee....

Date: 2008-05-12 11:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
I'll write you offline about this. A generous thought!

Reliability is the new black.

Date: 2008-05-12 11:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miep.livejournal.com
LOL

it is, indeed.

Date: 2008-05-11 03:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yaoi-in-exile.livejournal.com
Oh, noes! Riverside!talk *again*? Do I miss this *every* year?? *frets*

Dumb ol' hotel prices.

Date: 2008-05-11 06:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
I didn't actually do the Riverside thing last year. But y'know . . . someday we will meet. We will have coffee . . . and I will answer all your questions.

It'll happen.

Date: 2008-05-12 11:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miep.livejournal.com
wait, then was the thing where we all got to stare at you adoringly for an hour while you rambled on? and I told you I didn't like Flavia (whom, btw, I now like very much)?

Date: 2008-05-12 02:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
OMFG. Last year was harder on me than I thought*. I had utterly forgotten that. Yeah, the great ego trip of my life, and it's utterly gone gone gone (until you reminded me now) . . . . I can't believe they're letting me do it again! Color me crimson.

So now I'm thinking, "Gosh, is it too late to ask them to take it off the program??" But (a) I happen to know it is, and (b) I look at myself sternly and convey the ritual admonishment: "DON'T BE SUCH A GIRL." Guys don't get embarrassed about having attention and honors paid to them. Nyah.

*In the 3 months right after Wiscon: Spain, San Diego/Clarion, Mythcon, Japan . . . but still!

Date: 2008-05-12 11:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miep.livejournal.com
don't they?

you were a little nutty last year. are you going to be that nutty this year?


Date: 2008-05-12 11:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
God, was I? And that was just the *beginning* of the season. . . . .

No, I am not going to be even close to that. All is sweetness and light in Happy Valley. At least, by contrast. And we are not trying to bring out our first anthology, either.

Date: 2008-05-13 12:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miep.livejournal.com
Well, you weren't noticeably nutty, but your travel schedule might lead one to question your sanity...

sweetness and light are very good.

Date: 2008-05-12 02:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
"I didn't like Flavia (whom, btw, I now like very much)"

Sweet!

O come let us adore her on Sunday, then. We can discuss your conversion!

Date: 2008-05-12 11:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miep.livejournal.com
lord, that means i have to brush up on my tpots.

;)

Date: 2008-05-12 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miep.livejournal.com
you know, I could ask about you crashing on our floor, if you'd like?

Date: 2008-05-13 04:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yaoi-in-exile.livejournal.com
That is so so so so so FABULOUS of you--but I've just been drafted into working that Sunday anyways, so all would be for naught. (And, according to the director, no givesies-backsies. Librarians can be terrifying creatures.)

But you are still made of AWESOME. :D And I hope y'all all have a total blast. (Blog about it, pleeeeeeeze? *bats eyelashes*)

Date: 2008-05-12 01:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anteye-hero.livejournal.com
I am sad to miss Wiscon, yet again. This time it is a very near miss, as I am going to be flying into madison on the 22.. and driving to Ohio for my brother's graduation.

Believe me, I'd rather be singing karaoke drunkenly at the Tor Party.

Date: 2008-05-12 02:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
I had such a nice time seeing Josh at Oberlin! Thanks so much for reminding me he was there. I am very sad that we will not be able to make his graduation. So you'll have to celebrate extra-hard for us.

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