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Greetings from Brimfield Antiques Fair in glorious Massachusetts (where we are Legally Married once again)! A staggeringly hot day, and we gamely staggered around the acres of amazing stuff. We hunted; we killed. And now we must dress the beast and bring it home. In a large, scarey 12-foot truck which we will rent tomorrow.

Here is one of our kills. It will go in the diningroom, where hot dishes of food will be placed upon the marble to serve our guests. It is from ca. 1860, they think, and is made of a rare wood I'd never even heard of, cocobolo.



Date: 2008-09-05 03:56 am (UTC)
rosefox: Green books on library shelves. (Default)
From: [personal profile] rosefox
I'm not seeing any photos...

Date: 2008-09-05 03:58 am (UTC)
rosefox: Green books on library shelves. (Default)
From: [personal profile] rosefox
Aha. That's gorgeous!

Date: 2008-09-05 04:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
Thanks! I am now going to delete this conversation, OK?

But first, can you tel me the code to type in around the photos so that they are a cut that people have to click on to see them so I don't clog up my page with phtos?

Date: 2008-09-05 05:50 am (UTC)
rosefox: Green books on library shelves. (Default)
From: [personal profile] rosefox
[LJ-CUT TEXT="Click here to see my photos"]

Replace [ and ] with < and > respectively. You can put whatever text you want, of course. If you just put [LJ-CUT] without any text specified, it automatically uses the text "Read more...".

Date: 2008-09-05 04:21 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rikibeth.livejournal.com
That's a lovely piece of furniture!

You could just use a cut-tag: < lj-cut text="Click here for the pretty antiques" > photo goes here < /lj-cut > -- remove spaces to make the tags functional.

Date: 2008-09-05 05:39 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] editrx.livejournal.com
Holy shit, you have my server!

Mine is identical, same wood, same everything, handed down through the Vincent side of the family, from when they lived in Jamaica Plains, MA, during that era.

It was bizarre to look at that photo. I just went into my dining room and looked at mine. IDENTICAL.

:)

Date: 2008-09-05 02:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
Oh. My. God.

Well - now we know what part of the country it comes from. . . . !

What kind of candlesticks did you put on yours?

And it *is* a server, right? We were looking for ones that we thought had originated as something else, to serve as servers.

(I will tell you that we paid about $450 for it - seems like an utter steal - and, indeed, it's Dealer prices, not NYC Antiques prices - but still . . . . )

Date: 2008-09-05 02:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
Oh - Delia says it was a washstand; there's a mirror should be hung over it, and the candles are so you can see your face when you're washing it at night.

But then, you knew that....

Date: 2008-09-08 05:18 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] editrx.livejournal.com
I need to see yours closer, then ... mine does not have a slot for candlesticks -- it's a flat top.

I wonder if they were made to "match" by the same furniture maker?

I will post a series of photos of mine for you at my LJ this week, neh?
Edited Date: 2008-09-08 05:18 am (UTC)

Date: 2008-09-08 05:17 am (UTC)
ext_24631: editrix with a martini (Default)
From: [identity profile] editrx.livejournal.com
You got a fantastic deal, even if the marble top is not original (as many aren't -- even mine's a slab from the 1900's, when someone in the family cracked the original). I'll check what ours was valued at when we had it added to the insurance rider for antiques (it was many years ago, but will give you a ballpark idea as to real worth).

Yes, it's a server for a dining room. The candlesticks on mine are original Paul Revere rolled silver, which are also family antiques -- no, not "Paul Revere-type" ... Paul Revere candlesticks. :-)

Date: 2008-09-05 07:04 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] phoebesmum.livejournal.com
So lovely. Our house is new and modern and ugly, and nice furniture looks out of place in it.

Yay! for being legally married in whichever state you're in at the time. I think you should celebrate every time. Eventually (I hope) you could be in the position of having 50 wedding parties. That would be fab, on so many levels.

Date: 2008-09-05 10:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pamola.livejournal.com
I found cocobolo when I was seriously considering building my own instruments. Gilmer Woods (http://www.gilmerwood.com/instrument_wood-fingerboards.htm) has great selection of woods, particularly instrument woods. Need 400 slightly irregular pieces suitable to be the bells of (slightly irregular) clarinets?

Date: 2008-09-05 11:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kortirion.livejournal.com
Um... sorry, you don't know me. Just a small point - you may still have to use coasters because the marble will leech the heat out of your china and cool the food, and be wary of red wine, bottle rings stain like crazy.

Sorry to intrude - ex-antiques dealer - can't help it! Nice washstand btw, commercially it would have sold as Rosewood. ;)

Date: 2008-09-05 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
Please "intrude" anytime with such helpful & interesting information! Thank you for stopping by. Yeah, the guy said it's often misidentified as rosewood - or maybe they just want to use a word people already recognize? Delia & I amused ourselves in the car by trying to remember what it was called - "cowabunga" was just one option in our feeble brains.....

Date: 2008-09-05 06:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kortirion.livejournal.com
...maybe they just want to use a word people already recognize?

Probably. I meant when it was made originally - all sorts of tropical woods were sold under the generic names of 'mahoghany' or 'rosewood' - the terms covered a multitude of types; they often just tacked a country of origin on the front ie 'Cuban Mahoghany' = tropical hardwood stained red! *g*

Date: 2008-09-06 06:57 pm (UTC)

Date: 2008-09-05 12:30 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] zarhooie.livejournal.com
Oh, that's a *gorgeous* piece! I spent many fond weekends at Brimfield when I was younger. Did you see any of the silverware dealers, with their massive buckets of stuff? Mmmm.

Date: 2008-09-05 01:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redrose3125.livejournal.com
New York State recognizes marriages between 2 same sex people if the marriage was legal where it was performed (e.g. Canada, California). I am not sure what happens if the marriage was performed in Massachusetts in the time period where Massachusetts said, "If this marriage is not legal in your home state, it is not legal here."

Date: 2008-09-06 06:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
We were residents of Mass. at the time, so we're cool! (I wouldn't go to any state that didn't want me. Sniff!)

Date: 2008-09-09 06:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redrose3125.livejournal.com
Awesome!

I'm straight, and I am hoping to avoid living in states that don't want you!

Date: 2008-09-05 04:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 1crowdedhour.livejournal.com
You won big. That is beautiful.

Date: 2008-09-05 06:36 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Wow, I'm coveting that server! I'll go home and console myself with the fact that I have the same candlesticks, though. It's beautiful!

Sarah

Date: 2008-09-06 03:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
Which of my several favorite Sarahs are you, please? (It did not come with the candlesticks. We'll have to roll our own.)

Date: 2008-09-07 04:11 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I'm an entirely new Sarah; I don't think I've commented here before. I don't have an LJ account, but my little corner of the internet is here:
http://www.clodia.org/journal/index.html

Sarah

Date: 2008-09-08 01:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
Ah! Welcome! Please drop in anytime.

Date: 2008-09-05 07:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maryrobinette.livejournal.com
That is just stunning. Well done O' Mighty Huntress.

Date: 2008-09-06 03:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
Come visit soon! We will definitely be home tomorrow - polishing furniture . . . .

Date: 2008-09-05 08:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolfsilveroak.livejournal.com
Gorgeous.}:)

Date: 2008-09-05 08:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 3seed.livejournal.com
Wow, that's really lovely.

Date: 2008-09-06 02:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stephan-laurent.livejournal.com
Gorgeous!
What a find...
Any magic hidden in the drawers, pray tell?

Hot food and marble

Date: 2008-09-06 12:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sarahwriter.livejournal.com
Delia will say, don't put the hot food directly on the marble, it'll crack it.

Ooooh, very handsome, this!

Date: 2008-09-06 06:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] handworn.livejournal.com
That's a really great piece. Victorian marble just makes a person feel so John D. Rockefeller, y'know? And $450 is quite a good price. (Helps to buy at outdoor antique fairs, where overhead is low.)

1860 is just about on-the-money. Delia's right, it was originally a washstand, but marble-topped sideboards in dining rooms did exist back then. It's the marble backsplash that makes it a washstand. If it were a sideboard, it would likely have had a set-back wooden "superstructure" above the marble-- a supported shelf maybe a third to a half the depth of the marble top, at the far back, for decanters and the like to rest on. Like this (http://www.antiquearts.com/cgi-bin/item.fcgi?itemKey=1205829;store=%2Fstores%2Fsouhantq;catId=367) and this (http://www.harpgallery.com/showroom/item3771.html). You might notice these are also fancier than yours, which also indicates it was a washstand; the greatest degree of display went in public rooms like the dining room.

Don't worry about putting hot food on the marble. The worst that'll happen is the food will cool faster than perhaps you want it to. I think it would take something like a red-hot poker placed on the marble to crack that thickness of it. But many serving pieces are footed, anyway-- epergnes, compotes, casserole stands, etc.

Date: 2008-09-06 07:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
Excellent! Thanks! The original plan was to buy a huge sideboard of the kind you describe (only more so) - but instead we bought a huge glass-doored bookshelf I'll put photos of up soon, to serve as a china cabinet, with just room enough for the little washstand-turned-server, as planned.

Date: 2008-09-06 07:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
What do you think we should clean it with? We usually just dust our wood; don't want to add layers of goo. The guy we bought the big piece from said "Pledge" but we think that's just because it's what everyone uses to dust. But do you think something with some moisturizer or cleaning element is called for?

Date: 2008-09-06 07:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] handworn.livejournal.com
Finish Feeder (http://finishfeedercompany.com/index.htm).

Date: 2008-09-08 07:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
Duly ordered!

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