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They chose a black woman for moderator! Smart. Step on everyone's weirdnesses. I love this election.
omg, Palin's wearing "come f**k me" heels!!!
She does have a tight little bod. Now I know why my leftie guy friends say they are guilty of finding her attractive. Those are great glasses; too bad they are much too cool for that stupid haircut.
"Hear at any soccer game..." ARRHHHH!! Well, check that one off the list. Unless she pulls it out again.
How did McCain suspend his campaign, again...??
omg. Did she just wink at us?
"Joe Six-Pack: Never again!" Words to live by.
Darn right. Why does PalinBingo not have "Darn right"?
Oh, god; Joe, Joe - stop talking about John. In fact, could you both please refer to one another's candidates as Mr. McCain and Mr. Obama? It was sweet of her to ask Biden if she could call him Joe - but does that have to extend to "Barack"? I appreciate Biden's exposing McCain's various weaknesses & perfides; but I want more about how cool U enlightened Obama's policies are.
She's got a great screen persona. Looks right into the camera with a winning smile. She looks and sounds exactly like someone on a commercial for floorwax or personal care or dessert from a mix or something. Sell me, Sarah, sell me!
Joe. Look into the camera, Joe! Wow he's got big teeth. And so white. I hate this nation of bleached teeth.
She's gonna stop the greed and corruption on Wall Street? Must be those Jews. Darn it.
Ooo, good one, Joe. Political jujitsu: turn her own oil tax move against McCain.
Corruption & greed on Wall Street - again! Where's my shotgun? Or my Palin Bingo Card?
Joe, Joe, what are you doing?! You're not sure about the McCain/Palin stand on something, and you're bringing it into the debate? Don't give them an opening!!
Good thing she's a moron, and is able to bring everything down tot the level of a TV commercial. We're screwed.
"If you don't understand what the cause is, it's virtually impossible to come up wtih the solution." Oh, thank you, Joe! A soundbyte at last.
Same Sex - "constittutional" - yeah! How good to know SP is "tolerant." I love being tolerated.
"Let's try to avoid nuance" - oh dear.
(Delia sticking head in: God, what a - what a weasel.)
EYE-RACK - agghhhhhhhhh!!!!!! stop!!!!!!!! could we possibly please move our troops somewhere else, just so you can mispronounce a different word????? It's too late for "Nucular," I guess.
"Umm..." (tries to remember what she was supposed to say when ending the war comes up - oh, yeah: ) "Your plan is a white flag of surrender." Oh, Sarah, you wound me with your cruel words!
Oh, yeah, Joe: Scare us! Good man. Show us how much you actually know about Pakistan, etc. Don't you have some kind of job that involves all that stuff?
"NUKE-you-ler" - is this a class marker? Are there any Republicans who say "nuclear"?
omg. She's been getting tutorials from Kissinger.
Oh, great. Now she's selling Israel like toothpaste. "Israel. Our ally. Gets my teeth whiter than white."
Point weak. Make canned speech about "the blame game" and moving forward. Drop "g's" at ends of words.
Biden quotes Shakespeare. I love you, Joe.
Oh, come on, Sarah. Slip up - say "nuclear" just like that nice Gwen girl just did.
I think Biden is working hard not to look like a Washington Insider. But he's at his best and strongest when he shows his expertise and, dare i say it, experience.
goddamit, while he's talking we always see her looking at her notes and smirking a "Wait til you all hear what 'm going to say next!" smirk.
Yep. Biden describes actual experience, and she comes right back with "It's so obvious I'm a Washington Outsider." Can I call it? Gosh.
If I were knocking back shots on "greed & corruption on Wall Street," well, I wouldn't be typing so great now.
"No looking backwards (doggone it, Joe)" - omg. please somebody stop her. didn't we all have to memorize that Ortega y Gasset quote in highschool?
"Shining city on a hill" was Kennedy, not Reagan!! He was quoting John Winthrop - I told the story in my Sound & Spirit show on CITIES - it was a swell segment. (From the script:
In 1630, the English Puritan leader John Winthrop was on his way across the Atlantic with the first batch of people who would settle in what became the city of Boston. As the ships pitched and leaked, Winthrop reminded the anxious colonists of their true purpose: “…we must delight in each other, make others' conditions our own, rejoice together, mourn together, labor and suffer together, always having before our eyes our commission and community …” Their plan was not only to make a new life for themselves, but to show the corrupt ancient world they came from that people could live together in peace and common affection – to become, as it says in the Book of Matthew (5:14) , “the light of the world. A city on a hill [that] cannot be hidden.” And if can we do this Winthrop went on, “The God of Israel . . . shall make us a praise and glory, that men shall say of succeeding plantations, the Lord make it like that of NEW ENGLAND. For we must consider that we shall be as a city upon a hill, the eyes of all people are upon us.”
330 years later, President-Elect John F. Kennedy recollected Winthrop’s words when he addressed his colleagues in the Massachusetts state house in his native city of Boston. Describing his efforts to construct his own new administration, Kennedy said: ‘I have been guided by the standard John Winthrop set before his shipmates… as they, too, faced the task of building a new government on a perilous frontier.... Today, the eyes of all people are truly upon us--and our governments, in every branch…must be as a city upon a hill . . . For of those to whom much is given, much is required.’ [complete text & recording of KENNEDY SPEAKING is here]
omg - her closing statement included a science fiction scenario trope. What were they thiiinking?
omg, Palin's wearing "come f**k me" heels!!!
She does have a tight little bod. Now I know why my leftie guy friends say they are guilty of finding her attractive. Those are great glasses; too bad they are much too cool for that stupid haircut.
"Hear at any soccer game..." ARRHHHH!! Well, check that one off the list. Unless she pulls it out again.
How did McCain suspend his campaign, again...??
omg. Did she just wink at us?
"Joe Six-Pack: Never again!" Words to live by.
Darn right. Why does PalinBingo not have "Darn right"?
Oh, god; Joe, Joe - stop talking about John. In fact, could you both please refer to one another's candidates as Mr. McCain and Mr. Obama? It was sweet of her to ask Biden if she could call him Joe - but does that have to extend to "Barack"? I appreciate Biden's exposing McCain's various weaknesses & perfides; but I want more about how cool U enlightened Obama's policies are.
She's got a great screen persona. Looks right into the camera with a winning smile. She looks and sounds exactly like someone on a commercial for floorwax or personal care or dessert from a mix or something. Sell me, Sarah, sell me!
Joe. Look into the camera, Joe! Wow he's got big teeth. And so white. I hate this nation of bleached teeth.
She's gonna stop the greed and corruption on Wall Street? Must be those Jews. Darn it.
Ooo, good one, Joe. Political jujitsu: turn her own oil tax move against McCain.
Corruption & greed on Wall Street - again! Where's my shotgun? Or my Palin Bingo Card?
Joe, Joe, what are you doing?! You're not sure about the McCain/Palin stand on something, and you're bringing it into the debate? Don't give them an opening!!
Good thing she's a moron, and is able to bring everything down tot the level of a TV commercial. We're screwed.
"If you don't understand what the cause is, it's virtually impossible to come up wtih the solution." Oh, thank you, Joe! A soundbyte at last.
Same Sex - "constittutional" - yeah! How good to know SP is "tolerant." I love being tolerated.
"Let's try to avoid nuance" - oh dear.
(Delia sticking head in: God, what a - what a weasel.)
EYE-RACK - agghhhhhhhhh!!!!!! stop!!!!!!!! could we possibly please move our troops somewhere else, just so you can mispronounce a different word????? It's too late for "Nucular," I guess.
"Umm..." (tries to remember what she was supposed to say when ending the war comes up - oh, yeah: ) "Your plan is a white flag of surrender." Oh, Sarah, you wound me with your cruel words!
Oh, yeah, Joe: Scare us! Good man. Show us how much you actually know about Pakistan, etc. Don't you have some kind of job that involves all that stuff?
"NUKE-you-ler" - is this a class marker? Are there any Republicans who say "nuclear"?
omg. She's been getting tutorials from Kissinger.
Oh, great. Now she's selling Israel like toothpaste. "Israel. Our ally. Gets my teeth whiter than white."
Point weak. Make canned speech about "the blame game" and moving forward. Drop "g's" at ends of words.
Biden quotes Shakespeare. I love you, Joe.
Oh, come on, Sarah. Slip up - say "nuclear" just like that nice Gwen girl just did.
I think Biden is working hard not to look like a Washington Insider. But he's at his best and strongest when he shows his expertise and, dare i say it, experience.
goddamit, while he's talking we always see her looking at her notes and smirking a "Wait til you all hear what 'm going to say next!" smirk.
Yep. Biden describes actual experience, and she comes right back with "It's so obvious I'm a Washington Outsider." Can I call it? Gosh.
If I were knocking back shots on "greed & corruption on Wall Street," well, I wouldn't be typing so great now.
"No looking backwards (doggone it, Joe)" - omg. please somebody stop her. didn't we all have to memorize that Ortega y Gasset quote in highschool?
"Shining city on a hill" was Kennedy, not Reagan!! He was quoting John Winthrop - I told the story in my Sound & Spirit show on CITIES - it was a swell segment. (From the script:
In 1630, the English Puritan leader John Winthrop was on his way across the Atlantic with the first batch of people who would settle in what became the city of Boston. As the ships pitched and leaked, Winthrop reminded the anxious colonists of their true purpose: “…we must delight in each other, make others' conditions our own, rejoice together, mourn together, labor and suffer together, always having before our eyes our commission and community …” Their plan was not only to make a new life for themselves, but to show the corrupt ancient world they came from that people could live together in peace and common affection – to become, as it says in the Book of Matthew (5:14) , “the light of the world. A city on a hill [that] cannot be hidden.” And if can we do this Winthrop went on, “The God of Israel . . . shall make us a praise and glory, that men shall say of succeeding plantations, the Lord make it like that of NEW ENGLAND. For we must consider that we shall be as a city upon a hill, the eyes of all people are upon us.”
330 years later, President-Elect John F. Kennedy recollected Winthrop’s words when he addressed his colleagues in the Massachusetts state house in his native city of Boston. Describing his efforts to construct his own new administration, Kennedy said: ‘I have been guided by the standard John Winthrop set before his shipmates… as they, too, faced the task of building a new government on a perilous frontier.... Today, the eyes of all people are truly upon us--and our governments, in every branch…must be as a city upon a hill . . . For of those to whom much is given, much is required.’ [complete text & recording of KENNEDY SPEAKING is here]
omg - her closing statement included a science fiction scenario trope. What were they thiiinking?
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Date: 2008-10-03 02:46 am (UTC)And after watching that debate, I really, really want to get drunk to wash my brain out.
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Date: 2008-10-03 04:32 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-10-03 02:46 am (UTC)She does have a great screen persona, but I find her annoying.
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Date: 2008-10-03 03:10 am (UTC)I loathe her - did I not make that clear? But she gives better theater than he does - at least, tonight.
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Date: 2008-10-03 02:52 am (UTC)He quotes Shakespeare.
And he *rocks*.
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Date: 2008-10-03 03:19 am (UTC)It's a shame that the country will be more excited about the person who gave the C performance. Hooray for low expectations! :/
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Date: 2008-10-03 02:53 am (UTC)As my husband said, "That would be the 'Barbie' part of 'Caribou Barbie'."
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Date: 2008-10-03 02:53 am (UTC)If they asked me a questions about bacteriological testing safeguards (like the question on achilles (sp?) heel), could I answer about soccer moms and joe six pack? Hell, I would lose my licenses.
a WTF moment of reading talking points?
and yes she is attractive, even to a left-winger, except she speaks and you are struck by that vacuousness. and then you look for the door.
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Date: 2008-10-03 03:01 am (UTC)Margaret
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Date: 2008-10-03 03:09 am (UTC)Maverick Maverick Maverick Maverick Maverick Maverick Maverick (Would you cut that out!!)
Sigh, good thing I wasn't playing any of the drinking games.
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Date: 2008-10-03 03:13 am (UTC)Palin did okay, but she was evasive and cloying. She had her talking points (the ones where she was looking right into the camera) and got them in no matter what. She utterly blew off the last question (about changing the tone in Washington) to say "tax cuts" a few more times.
Both did well. Biden did much better, but Palin wasn't the ditzy airhead of the last week. If her goal was to reassure the far right "base" that she could talk in complete sentences, she accomplished that. If Biden's goal was to reassure people that he could be president now, he did that. Palin probably helped herself tonight, but Obama/Biden helped themselves more.
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Date: 2008-10-03 03:27 am (UTC)The mispronunciation thing got on my nerves to no end. UGH. And what makes her think Alaska is the 'heartland'?
Loved your comment about being "tolerated" - totally with you on that.
One thing that really got to me was when she actually said she was supportive of "women's rights"... I literally shuddered, glared at the screen and said, "Oh reeeeally?"
Though, I will say it kind of unsettled me when she'd look straight into the screen - it was like laser-beams. RoboPalin - engaged! Script loaded! Fire Ultra-rehearsed talking points!
*and is off in a tangent universe where the VP-candidates duke it out in giant robots*
Though, this was a fun debate to watch, that's for sure. ^.^
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Date: 2008-10-03 03:29 am (UTC)In Translation: "Actually, America, I Loathe The Heathan Homosexuals."
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Date: 2008-10-03 03:33 am (UTC)My concern is that Palin did well enough to be a Bush-- people who appreciate folksiness (but were beginning to think her too dumb, even for them) will appreciate this performance.
Thinking people, of course, will realize she never actually said anything.
But Biden seemed to stumble a bit, give her too many openings, and appreciate McCain too much.
Is it a crime to say McCain is not that good a guy? If he's willing, nay supports, corporations over real people, I'm willing to call him a bad guy in public.
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Date: 2008-10-03 03:39 am (UTC)LIPSTICK, I ask you!!!
(Roomie was short by 'Gee.')
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Date: 2008-10-03 04:07 am (UTC)I have to admit I was hyper alert for Biden's mistakes (just so there's no misunderstanding, I desperately hope he and Obama win big enough to dust off the word "landslide" for the first time in 24 years). What struck me is that most of his mistakes were the kind of elisions you'd expect from someone who knows his topic almost too well. Several times he failed to include the transitional or connective language that would make perfectly clear a point he was making or make clear the distinction he was drawing between his team's proposals or record and hers -- language that I'd guess many of us here silently provided automatically but that many others might not have -- the kinds of elisions that can lead to mishearing. Also his enunciation was sometimes less than ideal, he had a tendency to roll his phrases like they were a single word, a little too fast. Minor stuff, I know, but the sorts of things that might prevent some of his points from getting across to some listeners, from a scannability standpoint.
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Date: 2008-10-03 04:20 am (UTC)I deeply wish I could be a fly on the wall when someone explains "polyamory" to her.
Tomorrow I have a long rant to write on the terms "Joe Six Pack" and "Soccer Mom."
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Date: 2008-10-03 04:27 am (UTC)Also, I was totally reading slash fanfic while she was talking about her diverse little family full of tolerance for the Evil Homosexuals. Suck on that, Sarah Palin. Suck. On. That.
(My favorite part was when she said that John McCain "is the man we all need to leave...um, lead.")
But yeah, we're a little screwed.
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Date: 2008-10-03 05:34 am (UTC)"Joe Biden did more for the equality of the sexes with his honest display of paternal emotion during the vice presidential debate than Sarah Palin's presence on the executive ticket has or will ever do."
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Date: 2008-10-03 12:44 pm (UTC)And would they PLEASE put that poor little baby to bed at night?
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