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Red Bull Theater, NYC's brilliant re-creator of Jacobean Drama & innovator in "heightened language plays," has put out a call for 10-minute plays for their summer festival.  

So first of all, I want to let all my MythPunk pals know they should write & submit something so we can take over the world!

Here's what Red Bull wants:


Write a short play of no more than 10 minutes in length that contains heightened language, verse, classical themes, or is an adaptation of a great classic story. This year, each play must respond to the following word: 

REVOLUTION 

Take a look through http://www.redbulltheater.com/History to see the kind of work we have done. [And check out our mission.]   Respond to a play we’ve produced, or choose a classic of your own. Adapt one, Riff on a character, Create a whole new Jacobean-like world – you choose! 


So I should do something from the Swordspointverse, right?  

The problem is, I don't really think in short form.  This is where you come in.  Can you think of a self-contained little story/scene either from an existing Riverside novel or from something you wish I'd write about them all?

And does it have anything to do with Revolution? 

Thanks in advance for helping me brainstorm!  I am much more a communalist than a lonely artist who stands on a cliff with her hair blowing back in the inspiring wind.

Date: 2012-01-04 05:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] droolfangrrl.livejournal.com
Can't see how it would work for this festival, but I'd love to see Alec and St. Vier having an argument over sword fighting in a play.

Sorry. It's all that came to mind.

Date: 2012-01-04 07:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] annnimeee.livejournal.com
If I think of "revolution" a couple of scenes (and suggested back story) from the books come to mind:

- Alec in his student days when he and his classmates thought that they came across something ground-breaking, which the administration was against. (I suppose this would be a failed revolution.)

- Similarly a lot of "Fall of the Kings" stuff seems like it would fit in with this theme, particularly the scene where St. Cloud presents his magical argument and gets stabbed.

- Perhaps a perspective on the lead-up to the last scene in "The Duke of Riverside" with a nobleman trying to kill Alec to prevent his ascension but Alec succeeds as Duke anyway. Or something else involving Alec's ascension; it seems like a natural fit with the theme of "revolution".

But honestly, what I would really, really love to see:

I remember how you described St. Vier and his ex-girlfriend as rising twin stars in Riverside, and I would love a scene that showed how they earned that reputation. (I would love to see more about her, period.) I am sure a revolution could be squeezed in there somewhere, perhaps a change in power in Riverside?

Date: 2012-01-05 02:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
Lots to chew on - thank you very much! I think Delia would be very pleased if I did something with St Cloud & his students - they were her characters, after all, and you're right that that whole book was about the nobles' fear of revolution.

And if they don't make plays, maybe some of these could be stories . . . I'd never really thought about writing about Richard & Jessamine, but I can see them both so clearly - is it wrong to keep that to myself? Is it?

Date: 2012-01-07 04:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taraljc.livejournal.com
s it wrong to keep that to myself? Is it?

DEAR GOD WOMAN, YES.

I mean, erm... I would quite enjoy that. Yes, please.

Date: 2012-01-07 07:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] annnimeee.livejournal.com
I think an author has the right to tell whatever story she wants to.......

BUT I would say that as a reader I would so very dearly love to see more of that backstory!

Date: 2012-01-04 08:33 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rikibeth.livejournal.com
The Helmsleigh weavers, of course! Breaking looms!

Date: 2012-01-04 09:03 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] flake-sake.livejournal.com
First thing that came to my mind when you mentioned Swordspoint and theatre together is "The Swordsman who's Name was not Death". I really loved how it ran through all of Privilege, with all the women loving it and all the men not getting it.

I was thinking along the lines of a revolution in the audience. On stage you do not see the play itself (maybe only hear voices acting it out somewhere behind the (real) audience) but instead you watch a couple in the audience on stage that is commenting on what they see in the fictive play. The woman realizing throughout the play that her consort is actually an idiot and that she has to stand up for herself and get rid of him, if she doesn't want to spent her life sitting quiet, being ridiculed for the things she enjoys.

Date: 2012-01-05 01:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
Ooo, I love that! Because one thing that gives me pause in this "commission" is the "heightened language" mandate. People have been pointing out - mostly in the new Audiobook reviews - that my language in Swordspoint is, in fact, modern. Which it is! I'm actually glad they noticed.

But the language in The Sw-rdsman's Tragedy is self-consciously Jacobean. I didn't write text for TSWNWND in TPoTS, I don't think - but it's bound to be a bit more, ah, old school.

And you've given me a real self-contained little scene, there . . . not saying I'll do it, but it definitely bears thinking on - many thanks!

Date: 2012-01-05 04:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rikibeth.livejournal.com
When I was reading TPotS, I was imagining TSWNWND sounding like one of the old-school Castle of Otranto type Gothics.

If the TARDIS ever shows up on my lawn one of the first things I want to chase down is a first folio of the Tragedy. Those few little lines are SO TANTALIZING.

Date: 2012-01-04 10:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] engarian.livejournal.com
I can see this as more of an internal revolution, and that would be Alec's internal argument of whether or not to leave Riverside to take his place as a member of House Tremontaine and, through that action, to save Richard's life. One-act, single person plays can be extremely effective and you can get into all of Alec's (questionable) psychology.

- Erulisse (one L)

Date: 2012-01-04 11:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] just-ann-now.livejournal.com
Ooooh, I like that idea!

Ellen, how about Sophia's decision to challenge the patriarchy at the College of Surgeons, and how that opened the door for other women to take their places in the intellectual life of the city? Perhaps she had a discussion with the Mathematical Girl, Flavia, on how this could be approached?

Date: 2012-01-04 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] engarian.livejournal.com
Thanks, Ann. Your idea interests me as well.

I just thought of the stage. For 10 minutes - not really very long, you want minimal staging and having a one or two person show can be extremely effective in short timeframes. I think your idea would also work well within that type of constraint.

I see a black backdrop and a single spotlight either on a table shared by two characters, or just a chair or chaise for one person. That really would be all the staging required - minimalist and striking, allowing the words to carry the scene.

- Erulisse (one L)

Date: 2012-01-04 10:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heartofoshun.livejournal.com
When I think of Red Bull productions I don't think minimalist--at least not in costumes, language or general ambiance. I like the idea of doing a Swordspoint-based production in their Elizabethan-Jacobean mode which could give a hint at least of the sensory details of Riverside and the Hill, the excesses, like the colors and sounds, the dripping, hissing falls and ruffles of lace, just as one example. I am probably not making myself very clear. Past Red Bull productions managed to convey that kind of richness of detail without Broadway production values.
Edited Date: 2012-01-04 10:31 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-01-04 10:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
You know & love them too, eh? Yes, my dream is definitely to do a full production with them - but since they only do one/year, the most I'd hope for really is a full cast reading.

This particular contest is just for 10-minute readings; I don't imagine we'll even get costumes, though your description of the dropping lace and ruffles makes me sigh...!

Date: 2012-01-04 11:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heartofoshun.livejournal.com
Oooh! You're breaking my heart. Big budget Swordpoint movie is required. More appropriate even would be a TV series with the production values of A Game of Thrones.

Date: 2012-01-04 11:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] just-ann-now.livejournal.com
*drools* (I'd get HBO for that!)

Date: 2012-01-05 12:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] engarian.livejournal.com
Oh yeah, I'd scrimp and save to afford that.

- Erulisse (one L)

Date: 2012-01-05 01:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
Man - even **I** would get HBO for that!!

From your mouth to someone in Hollywood's ears.

Date: 2012-01-05 01:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heartofoshun.livejournal.com
Sadly, I have no connections, although my daughter did mention the idea of moving to L.A. with the cold snap we have had for last couple of day. Of course, then we could never go to see Red Bull productions.

Date: 2012-01-05 04:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rikibeth.livejournal.com
We've just lost one important person for bringing the big-budget Swordspoint movie to life, though. RIP Bob Anderson. I always worried that the movie would never get made when he was still around to direct the fights. Pity I was right.:(

Date: 2012-01-04 10:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] engarian.livejournal.com
Well, you have a serious leg up on me here, Oshun. I've never seen a Red Bull production. In fact, I've never even heard of Red Bull productions before. I don't think it comes to Minneapolis/St Paul.

I am a long-time theatre attendee (at least until I got married because my DH really doesn't like plays very much). My father wrote musicals (unsuccessfully) before he began writing textbooks (much more successfully), my mother loved the theatre and raised me taking me to plays and musicals often. But I'm absolutely sure that you have a much better idea of what might go well at a production like this than I do.

- Erulisse (one L)

Date: 2012-01-04 11:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heartofoshun.livejournal.com
I'm pretty sure Red Bull is a New York City only institution. There is a link above somewhere, I think in the initial post, which leads to their web site. Although I have read a few reviews, the only production of theirs I saw was this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSf0LzvgK94&feature=related (just a Youtube peek!

See Ellen's note above. Apparently--sniff, sniff--I cannot begin hope for as much attention to production detail as I'd like.
Edited Date: 2012-01-04 11:41 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-01-05 12:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] engarian.livejournal.com
That was an interesting Youtube snippet. They actually have more of a production than I would have expected for 10 minute readings. Or, maybe the 10 minute reading is what will determine their audition and they would then want a longer script for the production?

- Erulisse (one L)

Date: 2012-01-05 12:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heartofoshun.livejournal.com
No! I am succeeding in being totally confusing. That was not a 10-minute scene. That was a full evening production. EK explained above in a response to one of my comments, that nothing like that would be possible. Clear as mud? That was I had imagined that I wanted to see, not what she believes they will do with the 10-minute scenes.
Edited Date: 2012-01-05 01:53 am (UTC)

Date: 2012-01-04 02:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heartofoshun.livejournal.com
One thing that immediately popped into my head was a scene with Alec and his fellow student radicals and their failed revolution so to speak. It could involve either their preparation and inspiration; or an actual confrontation; or the university's act of smashing them. I had a taste for that when reading Swordspoint the first time, but got the itch scratched a little with the university politics in The Fall of the Kings. But I am a glutton for more still.

Just a couple of thoughts focusing on the Hill rather than Riverside: I think of revolution relating to that entire Tremontaine family. The House of Tremontaine is a very powerful one in your created world. Although Alec feels like THE revolutionary Duke Tremontaine to me (a bomb throwing anarchist rather than a political wheeler and dealer), both Diane and Katherine had their own perhaps revolutionary agendas and appear to have been quite successful in carrying them out through more subtle political means.

Totally different place to take off might be Alec settling a dispute or solving a problem in Riverside. This is own favorite aspect of Alec--the quite successful Duke of Riverside! Who actually does change his world for the better.







Date: 2012-01-04 04:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cssullivan.livejournal.com
Maybe something from the perspective of the daughter of the last king as she prepares to marry the Duke Tremontaine who killed her father? Revolutionary-esque but also very much appropriate to the universe to be from her point of view. I can imagine a really good, clever, knife-edged scene in her dressing room as she prepares to marry.

I always love Hill parties, so maybe a grand ball type situation at which some young Hill wife stages a revolution and overthrows a reigning society doyenne? That would be cool because it could be disconnected from any of the plot lines we already know about.
Edited Date: 2012-01-04 05:40 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-01-05 01:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
Fantastic - these are both very tight little scenes that could be done in 10 pages, I think. Making no promises, but I will be thinking hard!

Ah, if only this were That universe, so that it would not all require me also to set up the world-building! And everyone knew already who the Last King was, and who'd killed him, and why.....

Date: 2012-01-04 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] csecooney.livejournal.com
I have nothing to add here. I just want you to write it. Whatever it is. And then I want to see it done. Or be in it. Both. Either. THE RIVERSIDE REVOLUTION! Why is that banner red? It's red because the river runs with BLOOD! Hurray!

Date: 2012-01-05 04:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tamago.livejournal.com
Student Revolutionaries Sitting Around Drinking seems like a perfect excuse for Heightened Language.

Pardon my Capitalization. I am feeling Excessively Declamatory today.

Date: 2012-01-07 04:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taraljc.livejournal.com
I would dearly dearly love something set after _Privilege of the Sword_ with Katherine doing something absoluetly and completely inappropriate for a Duchess, and dragging poor Marcus into the soup after her.

Date: 2012-01-16 10:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fengtianshi.livejournal.com
Is it too late to answer? I'm kind of a lurker here, but I'm both a fan and a fanwriter in general and I thought..
Something about very very young Alec and his sister (maybe when they were children) and their imaginative revolution against the very strict and oppressive education of the family? Like a specific act they decide to take that makes them feel like they're fighting the authority, even if the authority itself doesn't realize its revolutionary nature, because it's just some children thing.
I always loved the detail about the horses they dreamed of that could have taken them away... Alec must have been as quirkful and sharp with both his imagination and tongue even as a child, or rather that's how I get to imagine him.

Date: 2012-01-16 10:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-kushner.livejournal.com
Ooo, smart! And insightful. Nope, I'm still collecting ideas - and enjoying everyone's thoughts!

Keep 'em coming.

Date: 2012-01-17 12:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fengtianshi.livejournal.com
Oh, great! Then I'll add something I just thought of!

Style and fashion has a very important part in your world, so what about something about a revolution in fashion design that's also somehow meaningful as another kind of revolution?

The two example that came up to me are:

-a new attire for women which is very popular and revolutionary because it adapts something typically male for a lady's outfit, which is revolutionary in style, but a sign of a more silent and yet very strong revolution of gender.

-a witty anecdote about a very new popular foreing dress that's quite revolutionary in style because of some strange detail, like an odd pocket or something, which was created to conceil a weapon for the assassination of a politician, only that the killer failed and with him his revolutionary intent, but his appositely tailored dress made a revolution of its own, which is si very sad and ironic indeed.

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